i appreciate all the expressions of interest and solidarity.
it has been a very intense week.
i started with the help of many of you, a particular war for my rights as a european citizen.. we have achieved an important space and advertising with a single complaint, which is a great success that i share with you all.. the press has not only spoken about a single complaint, but they gave a full coverage on asocial behavior of jehovah's witnesses and the last, a very hard editorial from the newspaper el periodico director (link).
Sounds like a civil case where loser pays. How does it work in Spain?
It's big money versus little money, but it has the opportunity to attract lots of media attention, which potentially gives the advantage to little money if it can substantiate its case.
Good luck!! Your story resonates with thousands around the world. We are rooting for you and against the Watchtower.
hi, my name is jason.
i was born in 1987 in nsw, australia into a jehovahs witness household (my parents were baptised mere months before i was born) with 2 older siblings (brother and sister) and in time a younger brother.
i had a pretty happy childhood, we moved to north brisbane by the time i was 5 years old.
you piqued my interest
i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
I never left, because I was never in, but my view of the religion started a dramatic U turn the moment I typed Jehovah's Witnesses in the Google search engine. It went from positive to very, very negative.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Yes, However, most Christians are very ignorant of the history of their religion and their holy book. I am willing to bet that more than half would quit Christianity if they studied in depth those two subjects (bible and history of Christianity)Sorry about meddling in others' debates. I just couldn't help itOkay so now you're saying it is possible to be a Christian without being either ignorant or dishonest.
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Me too but I was talking about in the context of the problem of evil. Evil still have no known explanation even in an atheistic scenario.
Does goodness have an explanation?
Oh! I forgot, it came from the asshole who inspired the Bible and thinks women are worth half as much as men and many, many other "good things"
while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.
because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".
i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.
Purpose of life? who gives a rip. You create that according to your capacity. I just wanted my post to be #400. Maybe that's just as good a purpose as any other. I better hurry before someone beats me.
EDIT Damn it! I lost my purpose in life. Thank a lot looter (sarcasm). You really are a piece of work.
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
Do you have the original text in Spanish?
Do you know what circuits are we talking about?s
My family belongs to the east side of the San Fernando Valley area, but I stopped attending meetings years ago. My take is that attendance is lower now than five years ago when I was a regular at the weekend meeting. One thing I have noticed is that people jump from congregation to congregation more often. About half of the members, the hard core, rarely move. The others are there, testing the waters, for few months and then move.
just a remembrance of the woodland hills, ca assembly hall.
i am enclosing a partial copy of a wikipedia article covering the purchase and subsequent sale of the facility by the jw.
i am enclosing the link and please pay attention to the bold portion of the document.. the theater project was backed by entertainers bob hope and art linkletter, along with cy warner.. the 2865-seat facility opened july 6, 1964 with the sound of music.
30 million!!!, then they get a property 80 miles away (Norco) for quite possibly under a million. The brothers and sisters now have to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in extra gasoline and car wear and tear to get to the cheap facility in Norco. Is there some benefit to society? None whatsoever; it's a waste of scarce resources that we should preserve for future generations, but the Watchtower profited handsomely. That's all they care.
my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.
after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.
this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.
Your pathetic! You have a chance to at least steer your brother away from the cult and you do nothing. Some brother you are. You could of at least steered him to places like this or other internet site about the bible and all its problems or jwfacts something. He's almost asking you to tell you something yet you do nothing. You suck!!!!
Easy crazyguy. Paleemperor knows his situation and his family a lot better than you do. He is acting out of love to his brother. That's good enough for me.
Besides, there are some people who are better off in a cult than out. His brother may be one.
my brother isn't a witness but he was raised one like we all were.
after 15 years living his own life he decided about a year ago to have a bible study.
this being the case, as a non baptized witness he can still speak to me but he's getting a lot of pressure not to from elders and the rest of my family.
If only mom and dad had emphasized more secular education and less cult education, your brother would have been fine today. Oh well, wishful thinking.
